There is much rejoicing in Israel and around the world at the apparent success of the first phase of the peace deal negotiated by President Trump and as we watch the arrival of the twenty surviving hostages in Israel who would deny the Israelis their right to celebrate?
Well I can hope too. Israel, however, has a history of broken peace deals that outweighs most hope, as you write. I'm all in favor of disarmament to advance peace. But unilateral disarmament?
Israel will find in its region only by laying down their arms in conjunction with the rest of the region.
I’m afraid that Israel will use the excuse of Hamas being unable to find all the bodies in the chaos of the ruins of Gaza to claim they have broken the ceasefire deal and go back to bombing Gaza. Meanwhile the IDF have been burning down buildings and they killed at least one Palestinian after the ceasefire began. I don’t see the IDF disarming, do you?
Hope will come only if the Israeli people take the reins of power into their own hands to maintain the peace and that might also require the people of Gaza themselves telling the Hamas militants they have had enough of such militancy and that kind of dual power exchange is historically infrequent.
Rory I was just a Canadian German resident in Dublin rather amazed at my tour guide’s investment in historical wrongs.
It’s odd being a Canadian German resident who thinks he’s a camel, living on the spot left behind by the Berlin Wall, waiting for the rest of the world to overcome insane odds and find peace.
Will it all work out in the palestines? I’m a least open to the possibility that it can. Maybe it’s even inevitable.
Let’s hope so but it feels a long way off, if it were to come about at all. I do think the Irish (I’m a citizen but British born) are very conscious of the oppression of anyone anywhere after their experiences with the British for centuries. We can wish Israel never existed but it does and I can’t see a secure and sovereign future for the Palestinians any time soon, if at all.
Rory, there will be no peace without the elimination of the illegal occupying monstrosity that people call "Israel."
Never.
In addition, I find it fascinating for someone like you, clearly well read and seeking knowledge, would fall into the same tropes of mainstream media. You began your article with mention of israeli peoples and not a single word about Palestinians that have been released from the torture prisons of IsraHELL. They hold many, many Palestinians for no reason, literally no charges. They hold women and children too. And they hold BODIES (some for decades). Many buried in the Numbers Graveyard.
I don't know what it'll take but it's fascinating to read this sort of thing.
And this is not to dissuade you from writing. It's a journey and we all progress at different places. I just want to make you aware.
Also, how much do you want to bet that IsraHELL is going to continue the Holocaust of Palestinians? They will, because it never stopped...108 years and counting.
But, it will stop. Guaranteed. IsraHELL will come to an end soon enough. The Zionist entity is bringing about its own end with its abhorrent , repugnant, and eeeevil doings. Thank God for that.
I’m sorry that I appear to ignore the plight of the Palestinians even though I referred to their suffering and deprivation several times in the article and have written about the terrorist actions of the Israeli government and its armed forces a number of times in the past on this page. I think you malign me unfairly as falling for the tropes of the mainstream media. My father was an Arabist who spent his whole career working in the Middle East and I have sat with many of his colleagues including Palestinians since I was a boy.
I do not think that Israel will ever be eliminated. You may well be right that there will never be peace so long as it exists, I just hope you’re wrong, but I am aware that you are probably right. It is the result of the weak attitudes of past politicians, and their iniquitous attitude towards the people living in Palestine when they sought to solve what they openly called the Jewish Problem in Europe. Now the Palestinians are at the mercy of the American government as much as the Israeli government and that does not bode well for them.
I would like to think that you’re right about the inevitable end of the Zionist regime, though I am more pessimistic than you. I hope for a better government in Israel and a peaceful future for the Palestinians, but I fear if it happens at all it will be a long time coming and there will be more atrocities before that wonderful day dawns.
Well I can hope too. Israel, however, has a history of broken peace deals that outweighs most hope, as you write. I'm all in favor of disarmament to advance peace. But unilateral disarmament?
Israel will find in its region only by laying down their arms in conjunction with the rest of the region.
I’m afraid that Israel will use the excuse of Hamas being unable to find all the bodies in the chaos of the ruins of Gaza to claim they have broken the ceasefire deal and go back to bombing Gaza. Meanwhile the IDF have been burning down buildings and they killed at least one Palestinian after the ceasefire began. I don’t see the IDF disarming, do you?
no I do not see IDF or Hamas disarming.
Israel has already claimed one returned dead body is not the right body.
It doesn’t look good. We must watch and wait.
Hope will come only if the Israeli people take the reins of power into their own hands to maintain the peace and that might also require the people of Gaza themselves telling the Hamas militants they have had enough of such militancy and that kind of dual power exchange is historically infrequent.
Woo Lily, alrighty then.
Rory I was just a Canadian German resident in Dublin rather amazed at my tour guide’s investment in historical wrongs.
It’s odd being a Canadian German resident who thinks he’s a camel, living on the spot left behind by the Berlin Wall, waiting for the rest of the world to overcome insane odds and find peace.
Will it all work out in the palestines? I’m a least open to the possibility that it can. Maybe it’s even inevitable.
Let’s hope so but it feels a long way off, if it were to come about at all. I do think the Irish (I’m a citizen but British born) are very conscious of the oppression of anyone anywhere after their experiences with the British for centuries. We can wish Israel never existed but it does and I can’t see a secure and sovereign future for the Palestinians any time soon, if at all.
Rory, there will be no peace without the elimination of the illegal occupying monstrosity that people call "Israel."
Never.
In addition, I find it fascinating for someone like you, clearly well read and seeking knowledge, would fall into the same tropes of mainstream media. You began your article with mention of israeli peoples and not a single word about Palestinians that have been released from the torture prisons of IsraHELL. They hold many, many Palestinians for no reason, literally no charges. They hold women and children too. And they hold BODIES (some for decades). Many buried in the Numbers Graveyard.
I don't know what it'll take but it's fascinating to read this sort of thing.
And this is not to dissuade you from writing. It's a journey and we all progress at different places. I just want to make you aware.
Also, how much do you want to bet that IsraHELL is going to continue the Holocaust of Palestinians? They will, because it never stopped...108 years and counting.
But, it will stop. Guaranteed. IsraHELL will come to an end soon enough. The Zionist entity is bringing about its own end with its abhorrent , repugnant, and eeeevil doings. Thank God for that.
I’m sorry that I appear to ignore the plight of the Palestinians even though I referred to their suffering and deprivation several times in the article and have written about the terrorist actions of the Israeli government and its armed forces a number of times in the past on this page. I think you malign me unfairly as falling for the tropes of the mainstream media. My father was an Arabist who spent his whole career working in the Middle East and I have sat with many of his colleagues including Palestinians since I was a boy.
I do not think that Israel will ever be eliminated. You may well be right that there will never be peace so long as it exists, I just hope you’re wrong, but I am aware that you are probably right. It is the result of the weak attitudes of past politicians, and their iniquitous attitude towards the people living in Palestine when they sought to solve what they openly called the Jewish Problem in Europe. Now the Palestinians are at the mercy of the American government as much as the Israeli government and that does not bode well for them.
I would like to think that you’re right about the inevitable end of the Zionist regime, though I am more pessimistic than you. I hope for a better government in Israel and a peaceful future for the Palestinians, but I fear if it happens at all it will be a long time coming and there will be more atrocities before that wonderful day dawns.
Sadly it seems that I am right, Israel has already broken the ceasefire, see the shared article by Owen Jones. Peace is still not possible.